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UConn future status as a mid-major

Post by J.J. » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:31 pm

This is just another example of some Courant sportswriters in the bag for UConn. I mean come on, a public plea to include UConn women in another conference is absolutely pathetic. Hey Jacobs, stop being such a cry-baby because you have nothing important to write about.
They should be pushing the ACC or Big Ten to immediately put UConn women's sports, at least women's basketball, in their conference. Actually, putting the women's basketball and field hockey in the ACC should have been done yesterday. And there should be a nice piece of that conference TV money that can go to UConn to help pay for those spots.
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This is a weekend when UConn football enters Fenway Park as a 21-point underdog to Boston College and its coach says he doesn't recruit against UConn. Because? "We're in the ACC," Steve Addazio said. "If you're a good player, you want to play at the highest level of football."

Those words upset a lot of UConn fans. BC blocked UConn's entrance into the ACC. BC hasn't won diddly in football and basketball. But you know what? Addazio is right. And that sucks for Connecticut.

Does that mean UConn women's programs have to erode, too? Think about it, Condoleezza and Billie Jean.
http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-wom ... olumn.html

And here Mike Anthony tells it like it about UConn football. Boston College is lead by CCSU alumn Steve Addazio :)
Whatever it is, it’s one-sided. UConn has never beaten Boston College. The Huskies have lost 11 times and managed scoreless ties in 1908 and 1910.

BC over the years went on to establish itself as a rare Northeast player in the sport, gaining serious momentum in the 1980s with the teams of Doug Flutie. Its proactive move to the ACC before the demise of the Big East paid off and the Eagles are in a comfortable Power Five seat.

UConn didn’t join what is now known as the Football Bowl Subdivision level until 2003. The following year, the Huskies and Eagles met for the only time as members of the Big East, a 27-7 BC victory in Chestnut Hill, Mass. Conference realignment musical chairs left UConn in a state of football uncertainty, and the Huskies have settled into the AAC and turned to Edsall, the original program architect, to start building again.

So these teams really are doing different things for the time being. On his radio show Monday, Addazio said BC doesn’t compete with UConn on the recruiting trail because the best players are attracted to teams in the Power Five, not elsewhere. It was a little harsh, if not inaccurate, and Edsall chose not to swipe back.

“I think Steve is a good person, a good coach,” Edsall said. “He's a hard-nosed, run-the-ball guy. His teams play to his personality. This will be the biggest physical test we get all year long.”

Boston College has won the past 10 meetings by a combined score of 297-59. BC won in a rout last year, the first meeting in 12 years, 30-0.
http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-foo ... story.html

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Re: UConn future status as a mid-major

Post by Skyhawkct » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:19 pm

Is Jacobs smoking something? Or is he just clueless? In no way shape or form will a Power 5 conference accept a singular major sport "just because".

It's an arrogant slap in the face to the AAC because they sponsor women's basketball and field hockey.

In some conferences, you may find minor sports from non conference schools but that's because the conferences the schools are in don't sponsor those particular sports.

No way will the ACC accept UConn women's basketball/field hockey for a number of reasons...including the fact that they already have a home in the AAC.

Let UConn push if they want but their "push" will only cause the ACC or any power conference to push back.

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Post by Shoreline » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:39 am

Jacobs’ pathetic groveling is as sadly predictable as UCONN’s sense of entitlement.

The real question this year is which is the best college football team in Connecticut, CCSU or Yale? You could make a good case for either. The only thing we know for sure is that UCONN is number 3.

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Post by J.J. » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:05 am

And so it begins ... :wink:
The UConn men came out to Portland to play in one of the strongest fields ever assembled for a regular season event.

More than that, the Huskies came to prove they belong with these elite teams. But after a promising start, the Huskies ended the Phil Knight Invitational with a no-show, thorough 102-67 thrashing at the hands of Arkansas on Sunday at the Moda Center.

The loss, the most one-sided by a UConn team since a 101-61 loss at Syracuse in 1977, sent the Huskies home with more questions than answers, and a lot of work to do before they can expect to be taken seriously on the national level.

“Everybody’s got to look themselves in the mirror,” coach Kevin Ollie said, “that’s including me, that’s every player, because our effort, the defensive effort, wasn’t there. We’ve got to move our feet, play with pride, got to rebound, and we didn’t have the effort in transition.”

Jaylen Barford scored 24 points for the Razorbacks (5-1), making the shots whenever the Huskies showed faint signs of getting back into the game. Arkansas outshot UConn 60 percent to 37.8, out-rebounded UConn 42 to 26, jumped out to an early 20-point lead and barely glanced back to wink after that.
http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men ... story.html

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Post by Shoreline » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:09 am

As those great basketball fans Rogers & Hammerstein once commented, "Oh what a beautiful morning!"

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Post by J.J. » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:13 pm

Shoreline wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:09 am
As those great basketball fans Rogers & Hammerstein once commented, "Oh what a beautiful morning!"
And the meltdown of UConn fans on their message board, and in general is epic!

First, it was football with Pasqualoni and then Diaco, which lead them to rehire Edsall.

Now, they are crushing Olie and they want the State to buy out a $10 Million contract.

I honestly can't laugh enough at some of this. We can't even afford radio broadcast for our basketball program and they want to buy contracts for fear of failing further behind schools like BC and Syracuse. Just amazing.

Their best is to join the Big East and play football as an Independent like UMass, collecting $$$ from SEC schools :)

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Post by J.J. » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:09 pm

If you want to see some depressing financials, look at this report from the UConn Faculty Senate regarding their state subsidy. This is damming report from April of this year and I imagine the academics in Storrs are finally going to pull in the reigns on athletic spending at UConn.
- Between 2005 and 2017, expenditures for the AD grew 70% from $47 million to $80 million.
- During this same period, despite numerous high-profile achievements in women’s and men’s basketball, earned revenues increased by less than 10%.
- Fairly stagnant revenues meant that most (83%) of the $33 million increase in the Athletics budget has been subsidized by UConn; an additional $8.3 million comes from mandatory student fees.
- The subsidy has increased by a factor of almost nine from $3.5 million in 2005 to an estimated $31 million in 2017.
- The extent to which the AD budget is subsidized grew from 7.3% in 2005 to 38.6% in 2017.
- Only one of UConn’s sports teams—men’s basketball—receives sufficient direct revenues to cover its costs.
- Despite the outstanding achievements made by the women’s basketball team during the period of analysis, the low revenues for women’s sports compared to men’s, resulted in the team being subsidized.
- UConn’s football team was the team with the largest deficit in absolute dollar terms, requiring a subsidy of $7.5 million for 2014.
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The SUBC recommends that the Athletics Department in conjunction with the UConn Office of Budget and Planning develop a comprehensive multi-year strategy designed to reduce the AD subsidy to 2010 levels by 2022.
https://senate.uconn.edu/wp-content/upl ... Senate.pdf

Now let's be clear, the budget news at CCSU isn't very good either - but this is like an Enron collapse for UConn athletics. Basically, they gambled that revenue at UConn would grow at the pace seen in the Power 5 conferences like the ACC. However, when UConn was left behind in the AAC and that growth didn't materialize they are left with expenses far in excess of their available revenue. It was a good run for UConn (1990-2015), but their budgets will begin to look more austere in the future.

Think about this - the FY17 UConn subsidy for athletics ($30.1M) is more than twice the total CCSU athletic budget ($14M)!

UConn is shelling out almost $8M a year just to maintain a football program! That is equal to the total CCSU athletics budget circa FY 2008.

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Post by Larryl9797 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:38 pm

you need to post this on the boneyard - yd get death threats.
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Post by J.J. » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:15 am

If you thought things couldn’t get any worse for the UConn men, they’ve tested the depths of your imagination.

Three days after a 35-point blowout at the hands of Arkansas, the Huskies came home and had to struggle back from 15 points down and go to overtime to outlast Columbia, 77-73.

They saved their season on paper — a loss to a mid-major at home would have been toxic, to say the least. But UConn failed the eyeball test, playing as if sleepwalking for much of a game in which simple pride dictated a big-time effort.
http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men ... story.html

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Post by Shoreline » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:46 pm

Is the once Evil Empire transitioning to the Feeble Empire?
In OT:
UCONN 84
Monmouth 81
Attendance: 6582

From today’s NH Register:
“Certainly, winning back-to-back games in overtime is a nice feat for UConn, which hadn’t done so previously in five seasons. That those wins came against a pair of mid-majors — Columbia on Wednesday, and Monmouth on Saturday afternoon at the XL Center — certainly is cause for concern. But a win is a win is a win. And consecutive overtime wins are even better, even against teams with a combined record of 4-10. And UConn is 6-2 on the young season, following Saturday’s 84-81 triumph over Monmouth.”

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Post by J.J. » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:31 pm

And to think they are ranked #3 in “luck” - imagine how bad they would be without that ;)

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Post by aerosyne » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:13 am

But a win is a win is a win.
A win is a win, yet they're agasint a school I guarantee nobody knows anything about, and the other that hasn't been relevant in sports for decades now? Get me off this top; it's spinning too hard.
Basically, they gambled that revenue at UConn would grow at the pace seen in the Power 5 conferences like the ACC.
Which was a gamble that I, despite being far too young enough to understand the complexities of economics of a university, never understood. Outside of Geno Auriemma, the school has absolutely nothing that makes it stand out head and shoulders above the rest. It's graduates don't give enough or in the amounts that would lead to the kind of financial power or endowment draw that places like UPitt and Notre Dame have. It's never been a school where you'd say 'I'm a UConn graduate' and people would immediately think 'that person went to a school that crushes it academically'. My uncle always described it as 'a school in the middle of a cow pasture', which is a little harsh, but really, that's how it's always been viewed, by people who went there, people who visited, and people who've never seen it. It's just always kind of existed.

Plus, it's silly to think that Storrs would have enough money to prop the school up; there's barely more people there than where I grew up. The university probably grasped that, thus pushing all the XL Center and Rentschler Field nonsense over the last decade and a half, but never realized that you can't push college sports when you also can't subsidize the downtime with professional sports, especially in cities that have fallen on economically hard times, and are stuck with a state government that has no idea what it's doing.
UConn didn’t join what is now known as the Football Bowl Subdivision level until 2003.
I always forget this little tidbit and how it makes me laugh that, despite all that work, they have almost nothing to show for it. Steve must love knowing he can come to Storrs and stuff some Huskie into the turf anytime he wants.

As for Jeff Jacobs' 'writing':
If important things are not done to protect women's sports at UConn far into the future, it will not only be on the school and the state, it will be on the powers of collegiate athletics and, yes, the most powerful women in the nation.
So all I've heard the last two years is 'we want equality', and now the lasses deserve protection, despite them being the best women's basketball team, year after year, by a country mile? They don't need protection, they need a less incompetent person at the helm of the school who thinks the administrative staff all deserve salaries north of 300K to do and say nothing.
Facing Title IX requirements, the richest athletic departments pour money into the women's game because it is the one sport that generates a level of national interest and could give some investment return.
I'm sorry, but no, it can't. The best female soccer players the US has ever had regularly stomp in the world competitions, and they make modest salaries at best. I could use the WNBA as nail-in-coffin proof that shows that people don't want to watch women's athletics, but using the soccer gals paints a better picture of how little attention women's athletics gets compared to men's athletics. Is it fair? No, but the average sports viewer loves dunks and people getting the stuffing knocked out of them, so until we can get there reliably with the girls, they will unfortunately stay woefully low on the investment return totem pole.
There seems nothing can stop the Power Five from shafting the dozen or so schools that pay big-time money in without getting big-time money back
Then stop paying big-time money. Seriously, it's that damn simple. Storrs has one-tenth of the population where I live now; you can't expect that few people to pay for the multi-million hog that UConn is. I get that the NCAA sucks and is supremely corrupt, but the university made this bed on its own, and it now has to lie in it. Also, the more articles I read of Jacobs, the more it makes me yearn for the state to get off its laurels and work to bring an actual professional sports team here, so he can go complain about them instead of a school that has had a loose leash for way too long.
Does that mean UConn women's programs have to erode, too? Think about it, Condoleezza and Billie Jean.
They aren't going to erode, you numpty, and it's because they're the only stable thing and claim-to-fame UConn has. I can't believe this is a the level of a professional writer in our day & age; Mizzou's SoJourn. is probably less than pleased at this one.

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